I’ve been in contact with Craigslist over the past 5 years over this group that calls themsleves a “coalition.” They demand that I stop posting information for people to use and dream up new tactics to get my messages flagged. Craigslist has been kind enough to review everything and let me continue to post.
These people have been looking for strategies for years now to get me blocked from Craigslist: Accusing me of everything from posting social websites; slander; defamation and misinformation to god knows what. They accuse me of things they themselves have been boldly guilty of (samples included).
These are the very people who post events sometimes up to 8 times in a row, who post their own websites, who post videos that are against TOU, who post false adoption events in another person's name and post their address and phone number - sophomoric stuff for a grown woman. In response to the following post someone responded on CL saying that some of this was directed at her specifically.
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Buzz words in the message boards cover issues from Backyard Breeders to Scams.
Sometimes people can’t understand why Rescues charge so much for adoptions
Others can’t understand why rescues always take the smaller, more adorable, more adoptable dogs from the shelters when the larger dogs are the ones that are in most danger.
Are rescues non profits/charities? Prove they’re not! Prove they are! One topic often sets another one off because rebuttals are quickly posted while the emotions are still running high on the issue at hand. Sometimes a really hot issue can go on for months until Management steps in and puts accounts on Hold. Whew!
Links posted for people to research registered charities are flagged. What's someone hiding? Not a non profit but still posing as one?
Other Buzz words:
Condemnation: You’re a thief / liar/ incompetent/
Denials: I am not a rescuer or affiliated with a rescue but . . .
Factual information: Actual links to databases, websites . . .
Personal Experience: What happened to this person
Personal Experience trashed as not Factual: You can’t prove that . . .
Allegations created out of thin air: You just made that up!
Non Profit / Rescue / or Scammer? The Question resurfaces constantly:
People questioning motives: Is it about the animals or business?
People exposing motives: Backyard breeders, Alex Borders . . .
Flagging: Tag Groups for Flagging, frivolous flagging, Flagging under false pretenses . . .
Then posting derogatory responses: What are you talking about? Where’s the post so I can see what was actually written? Gone? Oh, then there’s only what you have to say once you’ve flagged them.
People trying to expose bad practices:
People trying to silence them: some very weird postulations . . .
Hey! Do these people all know each other?
Find the stories behind these tidbits on http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeyfg4f/kittycatfosterpitfalls
What would these people be doing if there were no internet or Message Boards?
I think they might just explode!
This very post created quite a stir on another message board - guilty by association flagging.
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These are the very same people who post petitions to remove Board members of the ACC; who say the ACC is incompetent, inefficient . . . Before you know it they'll want to replace the Craigslist Board! I have referenced several their postings; I never use inappropriate language, names, I never post phone numbers. I never tell anyone to “drop dead soon.”
Everything I post is General Information that is helpful to people who want to adopt a healthy pet and follow the Attorney General's guidelines for transparency. I make it clear that my own horrendous experience has been with one or two of the rescues and am not generally bashing all rescues as this person is trying to make others believe.
I've been posting the same information since 2005 and people still write thanking me for giving them the information. I have included a small number of those postings - my work is appreciated.
I have included some postings that I've been accused of posting because either the person posting agrees with me; exposes similar abuses or/and (according to the "coalition") writes or sounds like me?
The new CL Police added that, "I have removed all my posts from CL now that I know the rules.." How long have they been posting their drama and NOW claim that they finally know the Rules? This is something you're supposed to agree to before you open an account.
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Let me Quote something that I was accused of posting:
Date: 2009-11-10, 7:42PM
"Why did KittyKind come into union square park by 16th St. to scream at a woman who was standing with a box with cats? The Vendors in the Park witnessed this confrontation of a private citizen. KittyKind threatened to call the police, it is not clear what charges they had in mind. THEN they took three of the cats from the woman, then they returned and harrassed her some more. In front of witnesses. This is not the first time that KittyKind has interferred in other people's cat adoptions. What right do they have to sayANYTHING to ANYONE on the street? They have been reprimanded, for previous threats, by the Mayor's Alliance but I guess that's not good enough for them. They refuse to follow ANY rules except what they make up. This is pathetic since one of their Board of Directors is a criminal attorney in Brooklyn. I, and other bystanders, listened to her harrass another non profit volunteer, someone with kittens on 17th St. last July, then tried to get the adopter to give her the kittens. Anyone know what their problem is and why they stralk people on the streets of Manhattan?. KittyKind has 30 cages, FOR FREE, all year long, in good weather and bad, INSIDE the Petco Store on 17th St and Broadway in Manhattan. They roam the surrounding area and harrass the people doing cat adoptions OUTSIDE in the weather, who do not have a FREE STORE SPACE TO SHOW THEIR CATS. This is ILLEGAL behavior for a non profit. It is against the law to do this kind of harrassment. If ANYONE approaches you ON THE STREET and harrasses you, call 911 immediately. Take photos of the harrasser. Let the Police FILE A REPORT. To the woman who was harrassed, did you get a photo of them? Please post what happened to you. Your privacy was VIOLATED by these people, who have a history of legal problems."
Original URL: http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/pet/1460423642.html
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Quotation of THEIR RESPONSE:
Who Appointed KittyKind The Police???? (They harrass people in Union S
Date: 2009-11-10, 8:01PM
"Kndly email me the specific details (date, time, where, description of person "harrased" and of KK volunteers involved) and contact information for witnesses to this 'recent' reported occurance. I'm not interested in what happened a year ago -only this most 'recent" reported event described in the post.. Forward the name(s) of the individuals who witnessed what was described. I will most definitely forward the info to the Mayor's Alliance. "Witnesses" need to provide specifics and be willing to be contacted by the MA. Alternatively, "witness(e)s" may contact the Mayor's Alliance directly. If this altercation did occur as described, there should be no reason why a "witness(es) would be reluctant to contact the the Mayor's Alliance. If "witness(es") opt to contact the MA directly, do so. I will reach out to MA to make sure that the complaint was indeed filed. If no "witness(es)" come forward, I will report a followup on Craigslist saying that what was described was not verified. I cannot imagine why someone would not be willing to follow-up with MA if they thought this occurance was serious enough to post the details on CL. thanks."
Location: dates, times, witnesses please
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
Original URL: http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/pet/1460447875.html
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THESE ARE THE POSTS I PUT ON CRAIGSLIST THAT THE “COALITION” IS OBJECTING TO:
Screen Before Fostering or Adopting
Healthy Kittens: A Checklist
Charities Bureau Links
Foster Policies - Why You Need One
My website has them and much more: http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeyfg4f/kittycatfosterpitfalls
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